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? >> all right. have we not been lulled into -- you know, anything bernanke does now doesn't shock us or surprise us. isn't this extraordinary? >> you know, a few years ago, there were all kinds of things that i would v never happened. now if people ask me if such and such is possible, i say anything is possible. >> one of the things that i did think immediately yesterday was ben bernanke may not have this job in two years, right? people talk about that. he may decide he doesn't want to do it. >> he was asked about it. >> but he may ultimately be locked in. he may be locking in his successor and his successor after that into this type of thinking and this type of program. how hard is it to get out of this later? >> it is going to be extremely hard to get out of this, regardless of who the leader is, because, again, it is now -- you know, this is no longer an extraordinary measure. you did this during the emergency and then it's time to get out. now we're -- you know, we're in a bit of a quasi equilibrium here and this is how we're running monetary policy now. so to now being doing a r
, roger altman and barry knapp. we have thorsten heins joining us, as well. >> our big story of the morning, it could be a tense days for the markets as the resolution to the physical cliff appears less likely. we can see the futures opening at least 150 off if things keep up the way they are. house speaker john boehner failing to mount enough support for his plan b that would raise taxes only on families earning more than $1 million. the president vowing he will press ahead with congress to get a deal done. >> he wasn't going to do it, anyway. what does he mean it will press ahead? >> i don't know. >> because it wasn't going to go to the senate. >> but to me, the demonstration that boehner didn't have the support -- you thought boehner never had the support for this plan? >> no. i'm saying boehner didn't have support to do it even at a million -- >> which suggests to me what kind of rationale -- >> because maybe the house wanted some actually spending cuts. after giving in on tax breaks, they didn't go -- >> we always wondered if boehner can deliver the right. i wonder if th
-bowles. erskin bowles will join us this morning, as well. if you have the democrats quoting him, the republicans quoting him, we'll very where he comes down and where things stand right now. >> you do simpson-bowles now instead of the bowls-simpson? >> i looked it up on going.. the more often cited is simple is son-bowles. >> the journal has an interesting piece. they don't like corker for breaking rank. they say why are republicans negotiating this themselves? they say let boehner do the negotiations. anyway, you would be hard pressed to find something who sdn have aen opinion on the fiscal cliff. this weekend, the ahead of the imf said the united states is more vulnerable to its domestic trouble more than anything else happening in the eurozone. christine lagarde says a balanced approach is needed and she says don't kick the can down the road, which is rich coming from a european. >>> european trading the lower this morning. italy's prime minister mario monti, yes, the same one that is famous from all the anti-trust things back in the -- was that the '90s? >> the '90s, yeah. >> monti announcin
. it is a crazy story we've been talking about for the past two weeks. john mcafee will be joining us live on camera at 8:40 a.m. eastern. we're going to get the latest chapter in this mystery that has murder, mayhem and suspension. his life is the movie of the week, if you will, and we will have it live right here at 8:40. please, do not miss that. let's get you caught up on some of the other headlines this morning. house speaker john boehner and president obama met for the second time this week. both parties are trying to avoid the fiscal cliff. the men had a frank discussion and the lines of communication remain open, although no specific details were released. the meeting came after frustration in washington. this was house speaker boehner earlier in the day. >> republicans want to solve this problem by getting the spending line down. the president wants to pretend the spending isn't a problem. that's why we don't have an agreement. >>> president obama remains hopeful that a deal will get done. he he told a cbs affiliate that he's willing to do a lot more in cuts and spending, i seas,
losses this almost four years. u.s. equity futures, though, not too bad so far today. indicated up about 15 points. today is thursday, december 6th, penultimate day before the day of infamy. "squawk box" begins right now. >> welcome to "squawk box." i'm becky quick along with joe kernen. andrew ross sorkin is on vacation this week. onset with us is drew mattis. welcome. thanks for getting up early. >> i'm always up at this time. >> we'll be going through secretary geithner's comments, but first let's get you up to speed on other stories. joe was talking about apple. it has been a rough ten weeks for the most valuable u.s. company. shares tumbling more than 6% yesterday shedding $35 billion of market value. among the reasons cited by analysts, a forecast by an influential research firm suggesting that the iphone and ipad maker is continuing to give up ground it rival the android gadgets. there were also unconfirmed reports that at least one major stock clearing house was raising margin requirements. and then there's the fiscal cliff. analysts citing fears about a hike in capital gains tax
on specific spending cuts. joining us now for analysis, tony fratto, of hamilton place strategies and former white house press secretary and gerald bernstein former economic adviser to vice president joe biden. gentlemen, thank you for being here with us and getting this special day of coverage kicked off for us. >> rising early and rising above. >> exactly. let's talk about this. jared, it seems like things have gotten quieter. do you think that's the case? is that a good sign? >> i think it's probably a pretty good sign. if you look at this morning's papers, you see a number of articles suggesting that there's a bit more compromise in the air. my concern is that tomorrow's papers may say the opposite. so interestingly, there's been some pretty leak free discussions going on, which i actually think is a good thing. they're obviously big, outstanding questions. you mentioned the tax rate issue. one question i keep coming up against is the president and john boehner are now supposedly having good, substantive discussions. can boehner bring the troops along? if he agrees with the president, ca
's a shortened trading session for christmas eve. u.s. equity markets will close at 1:00 p.m. eastern time. bond currency and commodity trading they're going to end early. in japan, indonesia, the philippines, they were all closed in europe. only the uk, french, dutch and spanish stock markets are open and they're going to be closing early. there are now only five trading sessions left in 2012. get your act together. stocks and bonds, solid gains so far this year. the dow has advanced 8% in total. the s&p 500 up almost 14%. the nasdaq has jumped 16%. it's been a good year. the end of the year also means we are just days away from the fiscal cliff, however, and that's the bad news. and looming tax hikes, spending cuts, all of that. both sides warning a very big deal becoming a bit more unlikely. >> and my one bit of advice to speaker boehner is this. you cannot pass a bill with just republicans. on a broad thing like this, you need both. and he has put himself with plan b and sort of an impossible position. he has to get these hard right goes to go along with him. and he and the president were go
, bob doll will be giving us his lineup for stocks. that's coming up at 7:00 a.m. eastern time. at 8:00 eastern, a cnbc exclusive. david tepper, one of the world's top performing hedge fund managers will join us to give us some of his wisdom in a kaerc t can't-miss interview. a lot to talk about with him. in the meantime, why don't we get to some of today's top stories. we could see some movement in the fiscal cliff negotiations. house speaker boehner offering to raise the top tax rates on those making over $1 million a year as well as other measures amounting to $1 trillion in new revenue. that's in exchange for an equal amount in spending cuts. the white house has not yet accepted the proposal. >>> also, apple says it has sold more than 2 million in iphone 5s in china just over the last three days. that's the best ever debut for the iphone line in china. apple is china's second biggest market, although it did lose a lot of market share while they were waiting for that i5 to come out. and citi research has downgraded apple from a hold to a buy. you can see there just below $500. >>
. we have two guest hosts with us. welcome to both of you you. we have a lot of things to talk about. the white house says that a republican counteroffer does not meet the test of balance. the latest republican offer would overhaul the tax code and raise $800 billion in new revenue, it would also seek $600 billion in health savings and $200 billion for revising the cost of living increases for social security. the net savings would add up to $2.2 trillion over ten years. now, again, this is the republican counterproposal to the plan that the white house has already put out. speaker john boehner has said that this is something that is much closer to the bowles-simpson proposal. erskine bowles saying the gop offer does not represent the plan, he says both sides are kind of far away from it at this point and that it's now up to negotiators to figure out where the middle ground is today. >> bowles said that the mid point that i used back in -- this is where we were last year. so used the mid point of the negotiations, but it's in longer the mid point i guess. >> he also said -- he is a t
undercarriage. but spain and the undercarriage is not something any of us need. but i think that howard dean, we didn't have time to go back and get howard and stuff. but howard said the best deal the democrats are going to get is to go over the fiscal cliff. taxes go up, then you go the republicans in position where they're getting the lower taxes. then patti murray. >> i just hope that people are paying attention that what we are seeing is basically the best world for politicians, they put off the and then everybody is going to pretend, oh, it's something happened. and nobody in the meantime is representing the interest of the american people. you know, we've got both parties in a position to negotiate this is what we want, this is what we elected and they're doing everything they can to not pay attention to that and to go to their separate corners and to be separate and to pretend that their way is not the only way. >> and it could result in people being called into, like, their supervisor's offices and their supervisor goes, i'm sorry, people are actually losing jobs because of this. >> but
kernen. andrew ross sorkin is off. we have two well-known market voices joining us. barry knapp and richard bernstein. we have a lot to talk about. thanks for coming in. we'll start things off in just a moment. we do want to begin with the markets and that looming fiscal cliff. the dow finishing november lower for the second consecutive month. the blue chips falling half a percent in november. and #% sinnasdaq and s&p did fi higher last month. six out of ten sectors managed to post a gain. consumer discretionary stocks up the most. utilities the biggest losers. and while individual trading sessions may have been choppy, it was another month of low volatility. the vix remained below 20 for the fourth consecutive month and that's the longest streak since february of 2007. a big part of the market story has obviously been a big topic dominating the sunday talk shows. tim geithner arguing republicans need make the next move in negotiations. >> republicans have said that they don't like those reforms or they would like to do more. and if that's true, then they should tell us what the
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